Ep 70: From Traditional Finance to Bitcoin: Najah Roberts' Transforming Journey to Crypto Blockchain Plug

After leaving traditional finance and losing her Bitcoin, Najah Roberts took it upon herself to create the first Black-owned cryptocurrency exchange in the US, where she offers personalized coaching and support to help close the wealth gap - in an effort to prove that human touch is still necessary in the world of blockchain.

Najah Roberts is a bitcoin expert radio host and keynote speaker from Los Angeles, California. She is the founder of the first black-owned cryptocurrency exchange in the US, Crypto Blockchain Plug, where she offers personalized coaching, support, and guidance.

Najah Roberts left 13 years of traditional finance to explore the cryptocurrency space. Despite originally losing her bitcoin, she got back into the space determined to provide the space with a human touch. She is working to provide banking services to the 65 million unbanked and underbanked people in the US and to educate people on how to use Bitcoin as an asset, not to immediately purchase depreciating items.

In this episode, you will learn the following:

1. The Challenges of Buying Bitcoin Without a Bank Account - Learn about the difficulties of buying cryptocurrency without a bank account from Najah Roberts' experience.

2. The Benefits of Self-Custody - Discover the importance of self-custody in the cryptocurrency world from Najah Roberts' perspective.

3. The Future of the Bitcoin Bank - Explore the possibilities of a brick-and-mortar Bitcoin Bank with Najah Roberts' insights.

Connect with Najah:

Website: https://najahroberts.com/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/NajahRoberts

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/najahroberts/

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Transcript

[Dr. Brook Sheehan]
 Hey, Dr. Brook here with another incredible episode of Dr. Brook on the block. I am joined by my copilot today, Najah Roberts, who is a bitcoin expert radio host and keynote speaker from Los Angeles, California, not too far from me. After leaving traditional finance with over 13 years under her belt, Najah drove head first into cryptocurrency and never looked back. She quickly realized how difficult it was to get assistance that wasn't being provided by AI system. Determined to give the space a desperately human touch, she became the founder of the first black owned cryptocurrency exchange in the country, which is called crypto blockchain plug, where she offers personalized coaching, support, and guidance. Welcome to the show, Najah. So glad.
 
 [Najah Roberts]
 Thank you for having me. Thank you for having me. I'm excited to be on yay.
 
 [Dr. Brook Sheehan]
 I'm excited for you to be here too. You and I spoke together at an event here in San Diego back in October, which was phenomenal, and you broke down a lot of different things about the future of blockchain. But before we get into all of that, I want to hear how you left 13 years of traditional finance and entered the cryptocurrency world. Where did all that start?
 
 [Najah Roberts]
 Well, you know what? It actually wasn't a hard thing to do, because I have been in the financial services space really searching for what I could do to help close the wealth gap in my community. And so I was really getting frustrated when I was looking at different financial services products and really realizing that they weren't always intended for us to win. And a lot of the same people just kept going back into the same circle of hands, and they were making the lion's share of the money, and they were giving us just enough to make ends meet or just enough to get by when you retire or just enough to get by when someone passed on. And I was thinking, you know, something's wrong with this. I've got to do something different. I know I want to help people financially, but what is being given to me is not really what I can utilize to help my community. And then came Bitcoin, and it was just real easy to leave after I really got an epiphany that this is what could really change the financial trajectory of my community forever.
 
 [Dr. Brook Sheehan]
 What year did that happen for you?
 
 [Najah Roberts]
 2017. That was in 2017?
 
 [Dr. Brook Sheehan]
 Yeah. So you're, what, would be considered a veteran in the space at this point with five years under your belt? Excuse me? I know you talked about at the conference you and I spoke about or spoke together at. You had originally, you had started doing some dabbling into altcoins, and then you've come back full circle to bitcoin. Do you want to talk a little bit about that? Like how you first jumped into bitcoin, got over, and came back?
 
 [Najah Roberts]
 So originally I got into bitcoin, and I have to smile because I called myself a recovering coinaholic. So I am a recovering coinaholic. So I got into bitcoin originally. Some friends of mine and my husband had come over and tried to talk to us about bitcoin mining, which we're kicking ourselves in the backside right now because we didn't do that way back, way back, 2013, 2011. Somewhere around in there, they did it. And they're all doing fabulous, by the way. So that being said, we're the highfalutin financial advisors. We know everything. We're going to be smart. So me, I'm going to go and get bitcoin myself without talking to these friends that are bitcoin mining, because what they're doing is silly. I'm just going to buy some and do so I bought the bitcoin. I put it on Mount God. Well, I didn't put it on there. I bought it on Mount God. Left it. Left it. You know what happened. So I was one of those people that you're kind of hearing right now on CNN CNBC that said, this is fake. This is because the exchange dictated my thought process of what bitcoin actually was. So I just thought bitcoin was a scam. And so from 2013 to about 2017, like, I didn't even want to look at it because my bitcoin was gone. There was nobody I could call to get it. I thought FDIC was like the greatest thing since sliced bread, which I've since found out just this year, the FDIC is full of it. That's another story because I had the money missing out of a bank account, and that's gone absolutely nowhere in 2022. But anyway, that being said, really just started going down the rabbit hole in 2017 and really understood the technology and the value and what was at hand. And I told my husband, listen, not going back. I'm not going back. Because those people I call those people, those people are for nothing but themselves. And so I got into the crypto, into the bitcoin space. Then again, and then I kept hearing this, oh, this is going to be the next bitcoin. This is going to be the next bitcoin. And I was getting any and every cryptocurrency I could because of course, it was cheaper than bitcoin at that time. Bitcoin had gone up to about 17,000 at that time. And it was like, you can buy this coin for .0. You can get it for pennies on the dollar. Why did I get this? So I tell you. I bought all of these coins. I bought all the coins I could buy. I tell people all the time, I'm not a porn star. I don't like porn. But I bought porn coin. Porn coin, because somebody's going to watch porn, right? I bought we coin. I bought repo coin because my mindset was that these companies were going to do great because they were in these industries that people use, but that's not how cryptocurrency actually works. And so I bought it on. So I had massive amounts and I was on a massive amount of exchanges, probably to the tune of about 30 some odd exchanges, which meant my information was all over the dark web and it just was a catastrophe. And so I lost a lot of money. Exchanges closed and so they took my coin with it. I even have coin right now on the old finance before they did the finance us. And so I can't get it because again, I thought I was smarter than the average barrel. They won't find out I'm in the United States. I'll just keep it over there. And so they lock my camera up. I can still see my coins, but I can't access them until I decide to take residency somewhere else, which I intend to do in the future. So I'm not really working at it, but it's just interesting. But being an altcoin buyer, I did and it just got me nowhere, just got me a lot of lost money and a lot of lost time. But it taught me a lesson, that's what it did do.
 
 [Dr. Brook Sheehan]
 Oh my gosh. Okay, first off, that is an adventure. You were going high, low, high, loopy, loopy, loopy all over the place with all kinds of different exchanges and coins and doing all these things. I first want to go back and commend you for the fact that you got into bitcoin kind of early on and then you ended up losing all of your bitcoin and then you said, I want nothing to do with this, this is a scam, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yet you came back. So many people don't come back and they are missing out on some incredible opportunities that are going to be happening in the future, but they're still pretty bitter with the more recent developments of a huge exchange going down. And hopefully they do come back. And that's why proper education in the space and what you're doing to educate and coach and support and give that guidance that human feel to people through crypto blockchain plug is so necessary. So necessary because you've experienced what it's like to go through all the AI, all the robots, not getting anybody, not being able to talk to anybody, not being able to do anything outside of that. So I guess I want to say it's amazing how your story, what occurred, has led you to become this leader in the space to provide the education that people need. And you can say, hey, look, I've been there, I've made these mistakes, I've done all of this. I'm coming to you with real live application, real life and moving through. I just think it's fascinating and amazing.
 
 [Najah Roberts]
 Thank you.
 
 [Dr. Brook Sheehan]
 Of course. Can you briefly not briefly, I do want you to talk about it in detail, like how does crypto blockchain plug work? How can people engage in and utilize.
 
 [Najah Roberts]
 What your yes. So our exchange crypto blockchain plug is different from all other exchanges. From day one, we have been preaching self custody. So when you buy from our exchange, we do not custody your coin, it is your responsibility to custody your coin. So we just make the transition between the Fiat and the Bitcoin and then we immediately send it to your wallet. We teach our clients from day one, they need their C worse, their passwords, all those things, which is much different from any of the other exchanges, which is why they've made such a lion's share of money. And I've been preaching this forever and ever and ever. And so now to hear these other exchanges saying self custody is the best thing, I'm thinking that's a novel idea, because they knew they were taking advantage of people and they've been buying stadium naming rights and all these other things with everybody's money. And it's just time. It's time for us to put the human aspect with this cryptocurrency thing, because it is definitely needed. And I think with our exchange, again, a lot of people, and there's no secret there are a lot of unbanked people in this country, there are a lot of underbanked people, and we in the cryptocurrency space have totally gotten away from the original goal of this thing. And it was to be peer to peer, not centralized. And with so many people not having a bank account, like, how do they buy Bitcoin, how do they go about getting access to it? And so we provide that bridge, and we're looking to open up locations all across the United States so everybody has an equal opportunity to get involved with bitcoin and not just have to stand by and be an onlooker. Because they don't have a bank account or they don't have a bank account or a bank that will accept them trying to buy bitcoin online and those sorts of things. So we want to bring the brick and mortar experience to every community across.
 
 [Dr. Brook Sheehan]
 The US with the brick and mortar approach. Then somebody can come in with cash and be able to turn the cash into the Bitcoin. Because you mentioned something which is a really sad reality here in the United States. People look at it like we're First World country, but there are a lot of unbanked and underbanked people here. You think about that in other countries, but United States, we have all of those people as well. So if they don't have bank accounts to link, like traditional exchanges, you have to have a bank account to link or a credit card to link to be able to purchase cryptocurrency and play. In the world of blockchain, what you're providing is the ability to take cash, paper cash for coins and turn it into coin.
 
 [Najah Roberts]
 Yes, absolutely. And there was a statistic and a lot of people are like, are you sure those numbers are right? But this is really a real number in this country, not a third world country. In this country, there are 65 million unbanked or underbanked people in this United States of America. The truth of the matter and a lot of neighbors, people just don't trust the banks. They put their money under the mattress, they keep their money in hand, and it's a totally untapped market.
 
 [Dr. Brook Sheehan]
 Right. Wow. 65 million. I don't even know the entire population of California, but I know between San Diego and Los Angeles, there are less than 65 million people between those two cities. I'm here in San Diego. In La. That's basically the size of our two huge cities. Not having a bank account. That's crazy. Wow. Okay, so that's huge. I love that. The education, the brick and mortar, having them across. Are you doing it across the nation or you also want to take this globally?
 
 [Najah Roberts]
 So we're doing it across the nation right now. And so what I can announce, I guess, on your show that we took crypto blockchain plug because it is an over the counter exchange and educational center, and we've actually converted it to a nonprofit organization so that we can educate and give funding to educate people. And then we spun up the bitcoin bank. And so every location in the United States will be called the bitcoin bank. And so crypto blockchain plug will be the educational component that's inside of the bitcoin bank. But we had permission to use the name bank with the federal reserve bank, and it just was this whole deal. They wanted me to be federally chartered, and then they realized that they couldn't make me be federally chartered if we're not going to ever apply. And they had to allow me to use the name. So we will be the bitcoin bank. And I'm working right now to get the funding to open up all these locations across the US.
 
 [Dr. Brook Sheehan]
 Oh, my God, that's so amazing. Congratulations.
 
 [Najah Roberts]
 Huge.
 
 [Dr. Brook Sheehan]
 So I want just for the listeners, because my audience is the crypto curious people and the newbies in the space that have gotten their feet led. And they're just trying to figure out everything. I know a big question that I get asked a lot, and I think it'd be great to have you answer it as well, because it's coming from me, it's another coming from someone else. But what transactionally? Right. So if you're buying bitcoin transactionally, how are people looking to utilize this in the future? This may not necessarily right now, but we talk about in the future people being able to buy groceries and doing their typical stuff that they would spend paper dollars, federal reserve notes on. They would be able to use bitcoin for those transactions. Do you see the bitcoin bank being able to provide other type of banking services for those people?
 
 [Najah Roberts]
 Absolutely. And Dr. Brook, just to your point yes. So right now, as you know, you can buy anything that you want, really? With bitcoin?
 
 [Dr. Brook Sheehan]
 Yeah.
 
 [Najah Roberts]
 But I would caution your listeners to buy anything with bitcoin. And I'll tell you why. Back in 2017, when I was really excited about where I could spend my bitcoin, I ran out to bed bath and beyond because they announced that they were accepting bitcoin. I went in there, I used their QR code. I bought my blender. I think it was a juicer. It's not a blender. A juicer at bed bath and beyond. This is before the price shot up. And right now, that same blender sits on my calendar. My juicer juicer sits on my calendar at about $1,100 from what I paid, which was about $150. And I still need weight loss, right? So those are the types of things that I try to get my listeners and my community to really understand. Like, right now, is it worth it to you to have something that you purchase with bitcoin when bitcoin goes up in price, when it goes up in price even more than it is and has right now, how are you going to be feeling about depreciating assets that you purchase? So what I'm suggesting to my listeners and to my community is to buy and hold right now because bitcoin has not reached its potential. Now, crypto or the bitcoin bank eventually will provide services because we want to treat bitcoin like an asset, just like we wouldn't sell our house just because we needed to buy something, you take a loan against it, and then you pay the loan back. So eventually the bitcoin bank will be able to provide the services where people can take a loan against their bitcoin. And I make a joke all the time and tell my kids, you better not sell my houses and you better not sell my bitcoin. So I'm definitely working in the space to just make sure that those services and different innovative services are going to come up. You got to know that maybe a little boy that was born today is going to come up with something innovative that's going to be available to utilize in the bitcoin space in 20 years. Like, who knows what's to come. And so we've really right now, just got to focus while bitcoin is on sale in stacking and holding our bitcoin and not getting so anxious about the price and listening to all the noise, because bitcoin has not yet reached its full potential, period. No way. It has.
 
 [Dr. Brook Sheehan]
 No, I agree with you. With that said, where do you see the future going? And I know that that's a really loaded question in terms of the potential for bitcoin. When you say bitcoin hasn't reached its potential, do you believe in 20 years it will, or 50 years or five years? Where do you see the full potential of bitcoin being reached?
 
 [Najah Roberts]
 So I think that we're going to reach a substantial I'll say it that way, I think we're going to reach a substantial amount of value in the next five to ten years. But as far as where I think bitcoin is going to go, I don't believe that I'm going to see that in my lifetime. I don't believe that my children are going to see it in their lifetime, but their children will probably see it. And I just think that the way Satoshi Nakamoto set Bitcoin up and the way it is divided into those 100 million little parts, there's room, Dr. Brook, for this one coin to be worth $100 million. And I think we want to be there. I think we're going to be there. And again, I may not see it, my children may not see it, but my great grandchildren may. And if they didn't sell my bitcoin like I told them, they'll be so forever, right? That's the way I'm looking at it. But yes, in the next five to ten years, there's so many things that are happening right now around us. If we're paying attention to not just the micro, the things that are happening in our community, but looking at the macro, we know that Bitcoin is not going anywhere. Cryptocurrency is not going anywhere. Today I reported China and the European Union, European Central Bank they're all coming on board with their own. CBDC. Central bank digital Currencies And so once they implement that, it's going to make Bitcoin all the more valuable, because people are going to see how they are dictating what you spend, where you spend and how you spend, and they're going to get pissed off, and they're going to look for something that is decentralized. They're going to look for something that is going to help them specifically, and we're going to be holding all the Satoshi cards. And so I'm excited about that. I'm so excited.
 
 [Dr. Brook Sheehan]
 Oh, that's so powerful. Yes. You say the CBDC, and I just like, cringe inside. And this is where education is so powerful, because they utilize things like FTX apps and what luna earlier this year, and all the debacles that have happened in 2022 in the Cryptocurrency space as ways to turn around and make the public see this in a very negative light so they can spin the CBDC in this positive. Hero coming to save you time.
 
 [Najah Roberts]
 Absolutely, it is. Absolutely.
 
 [Dr. Brook Sheehan]
 It is a wolf dress and sheep's clothing. And like, you saying that right now. I was just like, yes, because the people are going to realize the more that you and I continue to educate, the more that people that are in the space are continuing to educate, they're going to see how much more they're going to grab control of things utilizing that type of currency. And it is very scary.
 
 [Najah Roberts]
 Yes, very scary. And I'm going to go a step further and tell you, because you're spot on it, they utilize things that happen in the negative to push their agendas. And what I see happening, people are like, how are they going to implement a CBDC? Well, I'm going to tell you how they're going to do it. They're going to allow, and I'm saying allow because they're just going to allow somebody like Russia, Russian hackers, or they're going to allow somebody to come in and shut down the banking system. Yeah, something catastrophic is going to happen in the banking system where some hackers are taking control and then they're going to close it down and they're going to have a bank day. And when that bank day happens, I mean, look historically at the last bank day, and then they're going to implement CDCs for your good. And so that's how this thing is going to go down. I'm waiting on it because it's going to happen.
 
 [Dr. Brook Sheehan]
 I agree with you. This is definitely going to happen. And it is a little bit scary for me because it's one of those things where you want to get your family and you want to get your friends and you want to get all the people closest to you on board, and then you get people in those nucleuses, those friends and family that are just like, oh, you're crazy. You're crazy. You're like, no, come on, come on.
 
 [Najah Roberts]
 Your community is no different from my community, from your family to my family. All the same. As much as I'm in this space trying to talk to people and educate them, like, I have family members that are still not on board and they're not going to get on board until it's too late. But what I've decided is, hey, I've got to make sure that I'm good, because if I'm good, then I can reach back and get those. But I'm not going to spend a whole bunch of time trying to pull people along. They're just going to have to come on their own. All you can do is plan a seed and just let it grow. And then when they're ready, they'll come back to you. And I want your listeners to know that too, because I know sometimes it's hard, it's hard talking to family members about just during crypto winners, you gave somebody bad advice when they bought it at 68 and now it's 16. Right?
 
 [Dr. Brook Sheehan]
 Right.
 
 [Najah Roberts]
 The value is what what you're involved in, the technology is what you're involved in. It's not going to stay here for long. Bitcoin is just reaching its teenage years. It's just finding this way just like a teenager. It has pimples, doesn't know if it wants to dress like, I mean, like a skater. It doesn't know if it wants to dress like it doesn't know what it's doing yet. But as it grows up and it matures, it's going to serve us well. And so again, I think we got about another five to ten years and we're going to really start to see the fruits of our labor. Even then again, I'm saying you need to hold and figure out other options. MicroStrategy did a couple of weeks last week, but that's a whole nother story in itself.
 
 [Dr. Brook Sheehan]
 I love it. You host a radio show called above the Crypto Curve. Can you talk a little bit about what listeners tuning into that can learn or gain as they listen to that show?
 
 [Najah Roberts]
 So basically I really try to bring current events. People want to know what's happening in the space, kind of like the real perspective, because you can read it and really not understand what they're talking about. People talk high level on these shows like CNN and CNBC, and they're talking all these big words. And so people just really want somebody that's talking their language, like, down the earth, help me understand how this relates to me. I don't care how this helps MicroStrategy or BlackRock. I want to know how this affects my life and how I'm going to be able to use it and so on. Ahead of the Crypto Curve, we really focus on just bringing the news, but also giving little bits and pieces of education as people need it so that every day they can tune in and know that they're getting the real information and not something that I've been paid to say or sponsor that I'm working with. Because I do, really, and I get beat over the head for it a lot. I don't take sponsors because I just want to be authentic. I want to say that I like a wallet or a company because I like them because of how it's structured and what it does for the new users. The newbies I have my favorites only because of how easy they are. And I don't want to wrap somebody's coin or rep somebody's product because eventually, just like with FTX, that's what happens, right? Steph Curry write a whole bunch of other people. Like, you get all in a bunch if you do the wrong thing with the wrong company. And like, you can't trust anybody in this space other than your Bitcoin and your wallet and your instinct. And so we just really try to bring that information every day like that.
 
 [Dr. Brook Sheehan]
 That's awesome. I love it. I've been sharing with people. I've had a lot of people out to me when the whole STX debacle happened, and they were like, Are you safe? Are you okay? And I said, yes, I appreciate you reaching out. I'm okay. You know that I educate and teach you guys to take custody of your assets. And so I use an analogy a lot recently about you would never go into Target and just leave it there.
 
 [Najah Roberts]
 You wouldn't.
 
 [Dr. Brook Sheehan]
 You definitely it's just you have to like you said, you're telling people about the wallets that are good for that, you know how to utilize, that are great for beginners, not because you're being told to pimp out this wallet or to I don't know that you're getting paid to tell them that. So that's very awesome.
 
 [Najah Roberts]
 Yes.
 
 [Dr. Brook Sheehan]
 Yeah. Okay, final question, and then I want people to be able to connect with you. So we'll get into that in just a second. But as a coach, I think that you get to hear a lot of fears that people have regarding the crypto space. We did talk about some of it, but when you say the number one fear is that people within your audience or your students or your peers that you're working with, what are their number one fears about this space?
 
 [Najah Roberts]
 I would say it's kind of a fear, but not a fear. Most people instinctively want to go all in. Like they want to know if they should mortgage their house, if they should liquidate their four hundred and one K. And I'm like, no, we want a dollar cost average your way. And so I think the fear is that they're going to miss out by just doing a little bit at a time. And we've got to get away from that. We definitely have got to pace ourselves in this. You've got to be able to sleep at night. You've got to be able to feel secure about what you're doing. And so that's the number one fear is that they're not doing enough fast enough.
 
 [Dr. Brook Sheehan]
 So almost like a promo approach, like they have the fear of missing out. They're missing out on their next million dollars.
 
 [Najah Roberts]
 Yes, that's what they're feeling like. And so I just hate to see people doing really silly things, and I see it all the time and I'm like, because you can do this slow, you can do this steady, you're going to be okay. You're here. You actually are in a better position now than you were before FTX got the box because now that's pushed all Wall Street back. I'm glad they're back. I'm glad they're walking their place. I hate that they lost money, so I'm not going to be that insensitive. But I'm glad that it's going to give just the regular, everyday people an opportunity to stack a little bit more satoshi until they figure out it wasn't bitcoin, it was FTX, because a lot of people are still just acting like that was the entire industry that's gone down the tubes. And so when they figure out, oh no, it wasn't, then they're going to be back. But right now we have the prime opportunity to really go small. Even if it's $6 a day, $6 a week, $100. Do what you can do. Never invest more than you can afford to lose. I say that all the time as an ex financial advisor on purpose. Never invest more than you can afford to lose. And just really understand the technology because you sleep so good at night when you have your ledger or your seed words, because sometimes ledger may fall in the water or something, but if as long as you have your seed words, you're good. And you're listening to Dr. Brook and you are self custody or coin, you should sleep well.
 
 [Dr. Brook Sheehan]
 Yes, amen. That was. Awesome. Thank you so much again for being here. I just absolutely love this conversation. We're totally on the same page about all of this stuff, really educating people in the proper way so they don't lose their shirt in the process. Like you said, mortgaging, the house, 401K, it's the worst decision that they can make. And so glad you where can people connect with you? How can they stay in touch? How can they get connected to the show and see what crypto blockchain plug is all about?
 
 [Najah Roberts]
 Well, they can follow me on social media. Thank you, Dr. Brook. I am Najah Roberts. No underscores, no docs, no numbers. There are so many scammers out there, so please be careful. I'll never be in your DMs asking you to invest with me. That is absolutely not me. So please, just naja Roberts. Nothing else on all social medias, and then my show ahead of the cryptocurrency. You can actually download an app. It's called KBLA talk 1580, and I'm on every day 01:00 pacific. Just educating and getting the community up on what needs to happen and what our financial trajectory looks like. If we're just doing a little bit of bitcoin dollar cost averaging a day. And I say a DCA a day keeps poverty away.
 
 [Dr. Brook Sheehan]
 Oh, I love that. I love that.
 
 [Najah Roberts]
 That is so awesome.
 
 [Dr. Brook Sheehan]
 I'll be sure to link all of those, the radio show link, as well as your proper social media handles so people get to the right page at the first click in the show notes so they'll have access to that.
 
 [Najah Roberts]
 All right.
 
 [Dr. Brook Sheehan]
 Yeah. Is there any final words that you want to say before we pull this right into the station?
 
 [Najah Roberts]
 Absolutely. Listen to Dr. Brook. She is the best choice that you have, especially because she's just a fabulous woman. But listen to Dr. Brook. Take heed to everything that she's saying. Those of us that live in this space, we live, breathe, eat crypto. She is a crypto crack store. You need to framework that, too. So anyway, you need to do that. But listen to Dr. Brook. She will lead you and help guide you into this space safely. And so I just appreciate you for having me here today. Just have an incredible new year.
 
 [Dr. Brook Sheehan]
 Thank you. Thank you. All right, you guys, you heard from naja Roberts. Protect yourself. Take custody of your coins. DCA dollar cost average every single day keeps poverty away. I hope you enjoyed the ride for today. As we pull into the station, be sure to exit to your right, and we will see you on the next one.
 
 [Dr. Brook Sheehan]
 You made it. Congratulations. That wasn't so bad, was it? I hope you laughed and learned a little bit more about this web three universe and how simple and fun it can really be. Would you be so kind as to leave us a review and share it with your friends and family? It would mean so much to get this out to more people as we embark on the greatest transfer of wealth that has ever happened into human history. Can't wait to see you on the next one.